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The War Against E-cigarettes
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Maybe well informed vapers would not be
so "anti-Obama", if it wasn't his administration,
his head of the FDA and his liberal political supporters in the Senate who
started the attack
on vaping and are doing everything possible to have vaping banned or severely
restricted. LINK
OUTSTANDING SUMMARY
OF WHAT OUR MOVEMENT IS UP AGAINST TODAY LINK
CORRECT LABLE FOR PERCENT OF NICOTINE
ON E-LIQUID BOTTLES ... CLICK
HERE
E-cigarettes are a Smoking Alternative and not
a Smoking Cessation devise.
However, the world has decided to refer to them as a Smoking Cessation device.
Link
BEST WAY TO BREAK LINKS
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/09/26/3651928/former-american-lung-association.html
Remove http://www. Post it this way
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How to Break Links for "Junk
Science" and "Rubbish" posts Link
What I do is create a Tiny URL then break it
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Note the space after tinyurl
Why businesses (Restaurants) have e-smoking bans
It isn't sometimes about Right or Wrong. Good vs. Bad. Or Healthy and Non-Healthy.
It's more about Satisfying the Largest Segment of your Customers who Belly
up
to the Counter and Plunk Down all those Beautiful Green Pieces of Paper
with the Pictures of Long Dead Presidents on them. Link
(last paragraph)
Jenny McCarthy's very sexy
Blu ecig commercial
TFF post Click
Here
Direct link to the YouTube Click
Here
Big Tobacco's Ultimate
Goal ...... OUTSTANDING POST
they want to sell e-cigs to smokers AND to
Non-Smokers .... Click
Here
Kristin explains ANTZ again
this time to someone who shouldn't be arguing Click
Here
The LEFT is Anti-Ecigarettes !! .... Great Post Click Here
Every time I start to get down about ecig
banning or regulation
I read a Petrodus post and immediately feel better!
Click
Here
Bill Godshall ... in his own words
Why He is so obsessed with exposing Liars Click
Here
Public health agencies opposed to e-smoking
are committing public health malpractice.
Smoking Cessation lies ... by Obama's administration (By: Bill Godshall)
... Link
The FDA (and other DHHS agencies) and the drug industry funded anti tobacco
groups have been deceiving the public (especially since Obama appointees took
over DHHS in 2009) to inaccurately believe that all tobacco use is as hazardous
as cigarette smoking, that quitting smoking is the same as quitting tobacco,
and that making a smoking cessation claim violates the FDCA.
Videos by: Fr. Jack Kearney
There's No Such Thing as "Addiction" to Electronic Cigarettes!
Click
Here
An Ethical Look at Harm Reduction and Electronic Cigarettes
Click
Here
The FDA is Full of Mammalian Excreta Click
Here
Someone want to drop a dime on the researchers ...
You can't dissect and put the e-smoking phenomenon
in a test tube, with all its variables, and break out percentages.
The sun rises in the East and sets in the West
AND
E-cigarettes are here to stay - Click
Here 2nd post Click
Here
Caution Rant Alert
Speaking only for myself because I sure as heck
wouldn't want to be Politically Incorrect and offend anyone
The Media ...
are ALL Lying Agenda Driven Reality TV type Drama Propaganda Machines.
That includes Every single one of the 24/7 TV so-called News Channels.
One more generation ... there won't be anyone living
who remembers
true investigative journalism ... and the overwhelming vast majority
couldn't care less.
Carry on ... Click Here
When your born into this world ...
Ya get 1 of 3 genes. You don't get to choose.
L (Liberal)
C (Conservative)
N (Neutral)
Depending on which gene you get ...
dictates how ya see the world.
Nothing personal ... it's genetics Click Here
E-cigaretts are NOT as addictive as Cigarettes ... MY Post Click Here
PROOF
... Myth Busted .... Click
Here
E-cigarettes are here to stay !!
Click
Here
MY Possitive post ... proclaiming basically the war is over here in the US
AgentAnia ... Wrote a poem for me !!! ... Click
Here
Advise to all those in California opposing e-cigarettes
when they see Berylanna coming .... RUNAWAY GIF very funny Click
Here
I've asked this before ...
Anyone know of even 1 Congressman/woman or Senator
who has openly come out openly supporting e-smoking ?? Link
See Reply ... Post 13
AND
My VERY FUNNY post #15
What I find odd is why Blu e-cigs, for example,
hasn't shown up
in hearings with their Ivy League attorney's to protest e-smoking bans
leaving the state by state fight primarily on our shoulders. Link
GREAT FUNNY E-smoking in pubic video Link
I posted it on another forum link
and posted it again here link
I really never thought that vaping would be viewed
differently
depending on the area of the country or even within each state.
Very interesting phenomenon !! Link
------------ See posts before and after my post ------------
Bill Godshall posted this on 05-02 2013 Link
This article's key find is CITI's estimate that worldwide sales of e-cigarettes will be $1.9 billion in 2013, up from $1 billion in 2012.
Since US sales have been estimated to be $1 billion
in 2013, up from $500 million in 2012, it appears that half of all e-cigarettes
are sold/consumed in the US.
Regarding FDA, they simply don't know what to do about e-cigarettes, but
at least they're beginning to realize that fact.
That's why they brought Mitch Zeller back to the agency (he was Deputy FDA Commissioner from 1994-2000) to guide them out of the huge mess that Obama's abstinence-only appointees and hirees at DHHS have created for themselves (and all tobacco and e-cigarette companies and consumers) since 2009 shortly after Obama was sworn in as President.
Gold
When no one wants the paper; a few gold coins will buy a small farm
with a livable house...or the entire years crop. It's always been this way
in fiat money systems; it never changes; this time will not be different.
Many just don't want to believe it. Click
Here
The "Owners of America" don't want
a population of citizens
who are well informed - well educated - capable of critical thinking.
They are not interested in that. It doesn't help them. It's against their
interests.
George Carlin (may he rest in peace) Click
Here
I"m really getting tired of the whole E-cigarette
HOBBY Thing
If I found a Disposable that would really work for me ...
I would toss all my e-cig supplies ... Click
Here
Ex surgeon general joins NJOY board Click Here
RELAX ... It's a Fucking NJOY Click
Here
Courtney Love's commerecial
The FDA is NOT a distant planet in the universe.
Its a US Government Agency.
If the White House administration was pro harm reduction
you can bet your bottom dollar ... This thread probably
would not have even been posted. Link
Prue Talbot conducts study on ECF posts, grossly
misrepresents facts
Excellent comments and many very funny Click
Here
My post ... shot at Obama Lovers
Pawn Stars Rick Harrison rants about Big Government
and all their "insane" Regulations and Obama Care !!
Video
Listen to the entire interview !! ... Click
Here
Another GREAT "Back-Door" shot at Obama Lovers Click Here
ANOTHER Shot at Obama Lovers HYPOCRISY ... Click Here
Took a MAJOR shot at Obama Lovers Click
Here
Kristin posted
"Trust me, it pains the Democrats on the CASAA board
that it seems we are coming up against their own party all of the time."
Click
Here
Banning e-cigarette ads on TV
and here on the ECF... See ALL Post/Replies Click
Here
Another thread SAME Subject Click
Here
If anyone finds one (1) Congressman/woman willing
to stand-up
and oppose the FDA in favor of e-smokers ... Let us know !! LINK
My funny "still waiing" post Link See
the next reply #20 ... Funny
My brother lives in San Francisco ...
He's so far to the left ... He makes Obama look like a Republican.
He doesn't care what the politician do ... as long as he's got a view of "The
Bay" Click
Here
Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat,
populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -
are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who
want people to be controlled
and those who have no such desire.
--Robert A. Heinlein
Me Taking a shot at Democrat nanny state Obama lovers
Guess that's why those who wish to be controlled ...
never met an expansion of the socialist nanny welfare state...they didn't
like. Click
Here
My EXCELLENT Rant regarding Scientific e-cigarette
studies
AND
Regulation of e-cigaretettes ... Click
Here
Kayta ... Calls me Indy and my Friend Link ... and Click Here
Those who are not "plugged in" to Politics, Reality TV News,
and Health Freedom movements ... Are a happier lot.
One can argue "they" should be "plugged
in" ...
However, it's difficult to argue they are not a happier lot. Link
... Posted again here ... Link
Great thread posted by Bill that was moved to The
Outside
from the Legislation forum because it focused on Obama and Left Wing Insanities
Click
Here
The left wingers aguring 2nd hand vapor dangerous ...
I Busted them: Click
Here
I posted my "Blame" cartoon picutre ... that stopped them and made
them thin Click
Here
My summary ... All just words people use to describe Over-Reach Link
The Shocking Reality about Big Pharma and its relationship with the FDA Click Here
[ E-smoking Welcome Here - Restaurants, Bars, ETC ]
[ The
War on Nicotine Addiction ]
[ BigPharma-
if you didn't hate them before, you will now! ]
We seem to be fighting bans, restrictions, taxation,
etc ... state by state.
What I find curious is why Lorillard/Blu hasn't shown up with their Ivy League
attorneys. Link
1. Electronic cigarettes
2. E-cigs contain Nicotine
3. Electronic cigarettes emit Smoke-like vapor
Guilty by association Link
YouTube
Interview with CASAA President Elaine Keller (Vocalek on ECF)
posted by Kristin in the Regulations forum LINK
CASAA's web page:
The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes LINK
Outstanding video
Originally posted by Factor52 in the Legislation forum LINK
(Legislation forum post): Link
(Campaigning forum post): Link
What's that? ... It's Fake Cigarette LINK
JTPJC (Netherlands) Original !!
My version I posted (giving JTPJC credit): LlNK
Blu and NJOY sending customers to CASAA's Calls-to-Actions sites LINK
Why writting letters to Congressmen
is a waste of time
*** Plausible Deniability Click
Here
_______________
If the FDA isn't challenged in court ...
They will shake us off like a bad case of the fleas !! ... LINK
.... 2nd post Link
The FDA couldn't care less if we write our Congressmen/women
Click Here ... link to my Plausible Deniability post
There's one thing we can all agree on ...
We all will be able to reflect back and say
we experienced the Golden Age of e-cigarettes. LINK
Fear-mongering campaigns are now the "New Norm"
to advance private agendas. LINK
Bill Godshall posted his story about when he Openly
Vaped
at an Ohio County Board of Health meeting in 2011 Click
Here
******* The Boss of the FDA *******
and Orgranizational Chart ... CLICK
HERE
The War against Ecigarettes
What Our Movement Is Up Against
KILLER post by Rolygate: LINK
BILL GODSHALL REVEALS POSSIBLE RESULTS
OF FDA'S REGULATIONS
CLICK
HERE
My re-post LINK
I posted this in the Vetern's forum ... Kent's thread
The E-cigarette grassroots movement
Opposed by:
The FDA, BP, all the Alphabet Groups, Prohibitionists, ANTZ,
not to mention all those who just don't want to see anything
reminding them of smoking ... ETC ETC ETC
Our Nanny State government is all about regulating
everything ...
including personal choices and what the citizens should believe.
The FDA will do as they please
and the only way to check them would be in court.
Some say I'm a Pessimist ... I say I'm a Realist.
Being a Realist ... Does NOT mean I'm a Defeatist. Link
Metropolitan
Newbie (Obama Lover and FDA Lover) know-it-all ... probably an FDA Plant !!
On another thread this idot stated CASAA was just an FDA pawn !!
and Elaine and others had to educate this newbie Obama Lover
1st idot post followed by Elaine educating him Click
Here
Vocalek (Elaine) ... Slams 2 "metropolitan" and gives him an education
e-cigs and the FDA !!
PART 2: Click
Here
SUMMARY: Click
Here
"metropolitan" ... comes back with his idiotic stuff promting my
sarcasm: Click
Here
The idot gets mad and thows a temper tantrum ...
prompting Elaine to NAIL the Obama Lover ... AGAIN pointing out he's clueless
... Click
Here
---- TOO FUNNY !! A member asks "metropolitan" if he's an FDA Shill or FDA Plant Click Here
((( At this point I reported to ECF Management ... "I and others believe Metropolitan to be an FDA Plant" )))
Metropolitan now plays the "poor me routine" ... Click Here
Kristen then chimes in ... Great !! Click
Here
Bill Godshall ... hammered him ... Link
Agorizer ... Drops the Hammer on Metropolitan ...ha-ha ... Click
Here
Several other members between his 1st post#17 ...
tried to help him and then later "Nailed Him"
Including me !!
Later he popped up with his FDA Loving comments
on another thread
and I Nailed him...and reported him AGAIN to managment as an FDA plant:
Click
Here
Then I NAILED him AGAIN ... and REAL Good !!
... Link
Couldn't help myself ... Nailed him again !! Click
Here
When Big Tobacco files suit ...
I hope they prove in court the FDA
has been having unprotected sex with BP for decades !! LINK
The FDA Reports to NO ONE ... LINK
Very Interesting long discussion
The corrupt FDA is just one of many carbuncles
on the rear of our corrupt government LINK
7th hand smoke (my post)
Being the 7th person to turn a door knob
after a smoker touched it Link
My BEST Obama Lover Slam to-date:
Killer because Bill Godshall set me up with HIS Slam against Obama ... LINK
Another Great Obama Lover slam Click Here
Why all those opposed to E-cigarettes are Scared
LINK
My 1st re-post: Link
2nd re-post: Link
3rd re-post: Link
Big Pharma's agenda is to have harm reduction banned
BP needs smokers ... money trail
by: Rolygate LINK
My re-post Link
Big Tobacco - Big Pharma ... EXCELLENT
by: Rolygate: LINK
CASAA Fund Drive
Deeming Regulation clouds are on the horizon.
I suggest the e-smoking movement is very capable
of raising $100K or more. LINK
$$$ To-Date: LINK
Obama Care is a Train Wreck LINK
Very Funny post #2 with Disclaimer picture !!! LINK
Disclaimer: I THINK therefore I am NEITHER Democrat NOR Republican
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Uncle Wille ... posts his Nanny State loving opinions
LINK
See the reply 10 funny !!
See reply 11 he defends himself ... Reply 12 .... Crumpet nailed him !!
Reality Check
There's not a town, city, county, state, or country on planet earth
where there's not an active government supported movement
to ban or at least seriously restrict e-smoking (period) LINK
My Funny FDA Cartoon LINK
Want to watch an elected official break out in a sweat,
shake like a leaf on a tree, and crap their pants?
Insist they oppose the FDA on any issue. LINK
Why writing Congressmen is a waste of time !! - LINK
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
Big Question
How many rights, freedoms and privileges can the Nanny State
steal from Americans before the citizens Snap !!??
The Nanny State doesn't know ...
However, the State is hell-bent on finding out. LINK
"Petitions" mean nothing to the Gov't: ...
My funny post LINK
Petitions Big Question (Sarcasm) Click
Here
*** My
Best FDA Regulations Post
More ... LINK
Also see Click
Here and Click
Here and Click
Here - Atty Jonathan Emord post Click
Here
My Sarcastic FDA Reality Alert post Click Here
2nd Hand Vapor
To quote Elaine (Vocalek)
You would have to lip lock with someone and blow the vapor
in their mouth for them to get any nicotine! LINK
Big Government is not the answer
The government can't even balance its own checkbook !! Click
Here
E-cig grass roots VS the FDA, BP, Alpha groups Click Here
The FDA will do as they please.
The only way to check them would be in court.
For the benefit of new members ...
The FDA is NOT in place to protect American's health.
It's an Urban Myth.
When you think anything about the FDA doesn't even
make common sense ... You probably believe the Urban Myth. LINK
The "Intellectual Progressives" in America
believe they know what is best and they will decide ....... LINK
My reply to the Obama Lover(Uncle Willie): Click
Here
Member hammer's Uncle Willie: LINK
The "hobbyist" segment of our movement will
always
find the "work-a-rounds" to any BS restraints governments
try to impose on us.
Vaping AND "Rock-N-Roll" ... Will NEVER Die !! LINK
Consequences is the Great Equalizer LINK
Since 100% of our elected officials
and 100% of our government agencies
Constantly LIE to us....
IF we heard the truth from any of them,
logic would dictate that they are lying.
It's circular logic the ANTZ use: ........ Kristin LINK
ANTZ: No proof e-cigarettes help with smoking cessation.
E-CIG USERS: But we've quit smoking.
ANTZ: No you haven't really, you still use nicotine.
E-CIG USERS: So, there is no smoking cessation unless we quit nicotine?
ANTZ: Yep.
E-CIG USERS: That means the drug therapy for smoking cessation is actually
treating nicotine addiction, not just quitting smoking alone?
ANTZ: Exactly.
E-CIG USERS: So, if they say "helps you quit smoking" but not "treats
nicotine addiction" then they can't be making "therapeutic claims"
because they aren't claiming to treat nicotine addiction.
ANTZ: (fingers in ears) Lalalalalalalala.....
HILLARIOUS comment from the public on an Anti-Ecigarette
article
I can't take much more of these "effing" worthless, mindless, non-thinking,
money-grubbing
taxing political HACKS. GET RID OF THESE LOSERS.
LINK
CHANTIX ... SNL Video LINK
Social Media is the ONLY way to get the Truth out...
This is the reason they want to control the Internet. LINK
